Well, probably Kobe, because of the fact that … well, of course he wouldn’t have been shooting as much as he does now … but his desire to win, his dedication, to always get better, uh, and he’s just, he’s just tough. He’s just a tough cat.

But, if you want to have fun, like I did with Bill Walton, play with LeBron. But if you want to win and win and win, it’s Kobe. [Kobe’s] mindset is to go into every practice, every game, to get better.